Rumble not working with a DualShock 3

[1ncorrect]

Thank you for the information. We will analyze it.

[Cuzzin Chizzy]

ok, so I uninstalled reWASD

and tried to play some games with just the "Wireless controller for PLAYSTATION(R)3" showing up among connected devices
couldn't get it to work on anything

After some looking around I decided to test something with RPCS3
On the RPCS3 website, the recommended way to connect a DS3 is by using "Nefarius' DsHidMini" and "Nefarius' BthPS3"


After I installed those, and set RPCS3's controller handler to DS3, I can play games in that emulator and get rumble.

So I decided to test something else out and reinstalled reWASD. reWASD doesn't detect the DS3 at all, probably because of the Nefarius Drivers, but I was technically able to get the rumble to work on PC.


Not sure if any of that information is helpful to you , regarding how this particular controller is behaving in windows, or how reWASD is handling things

If there's anything else you'd like me to try, let me know, thanks

[Miron4ik42]

Yes, but if you want to make a backup, to be sure, here is how to find the config folder easily:

[Cuzzin Chizzy]

Ok, I’ll check that out

Will I be able to keep my saved profiles/settings for games and controllers when I uninstall reWASD?

[reWASDer]

There are many fake DS3 controllers, some of them are a perfect copy, some not. No worries about "E" letter at the end, indeed, it is European model, and it looks legit. Still, there are no guarantees that this one, with the correct naming, is not a fake unfortunately. Though I agree it looks pretty good and seems to be reported properly.

You have mentioned the games you tried to check the analog zones for the face buttons, that's a great idea. Could you please also try to check the in-game vibration natively, without reWASD being involved? You may even try to uninstall reWASD (with the system restart) to check if something changes with the games — this way we will understand if it is related to our drivers or not.

[Cuzzin Chizzy]

to clarify, the refurb rumble works on the PS3, but wasn't working on the PC

[Cuzzin Chizzy]

thanks for your help checking into all of this you guys

I tried turning off Xbox Extended Feature Support in Big Picture, restarted my PC and tried again. Getting the same results there.

Now I'm starting to think I've been duped though. I just bought a used/refurbished controller from a local used game store that usually has legitimate products. The controller seemed legit and didn't have anything that screamed fake. The rumble works, the sixaxis tilt works perfectly, and the controller feels pretty good.

After having these issues though I started trouble shooting thinking it was an issue with this controller, even though everything seemed to be working right, maybe something somewhere wasn't. So first I started comparing it to the DS3 that came with my slim with PS3 games on my Slim console. The refurb felt ever so slightly lighter, and i noticed that the rumble also felt a tiny bit different. At first I chocked this up to reading about how later versions of the DS3 had removed some extra plastic inside and were lighter. But then I also noticed the label on the back, while at first glance looks like it could be legitimate looks vastly different from the OG DS3. I thought maybe it was a european controller. The model is SECHZC2E (Europe?). where the OG model is CECHZC2U (US?) Then I tested for analog face buttons, and the refurb unit doesn't have analog function in MGS2 HD but the OG does.

The last thing I tried was unpairing the OG DS3 from my Slim and pairing it with the PC and reWASD. I noticed a difference right away in that instead of all 4 LEDs flashing and staying lit after connecting like with the refurb, only the player one LED flashed and stayed on. Then rumble was working in reWASD and in games.

So now I'm pretty sure that the refurb is a fake controller. But maaaan, it's VERY convincing in the feel of it. I'd almost want to keep it even if it was fake if the rumble and analogs worked like they were supposed to, because everything else about the controller feels good.

I should have thought about this before reporting the issue, but had no idea there was such a huge number of fake DS3 controllers out there. I guess it makes sense since they aren't sold new anymore.

Unless there's an off chance that it actually IS legitimate and just a later model released in Europe, and doesn't play the same way with windows as a US one......? I mean there were only a few games that used analog/pressure sensitive face buttons, before developers kind of dropped the feature, so maybe they just left analog out of future revisions?

OR..... It's just a phony. A reaaaalllly convincing feeling phony.

guess if I want an extra controller I might need to pay $100 dollars for a real one on eBay... eesh

top 2 are the refurb, bottom 2 are the OG

[reWASDer]

Hey there!

We have checked the logs, and it seems that rumble is present according to the log. Also, it seems that you are using the Steam's driver. Could you please try to turn Xbox Extended Feature Support off in Big Picture, restart your PC and try again? Not sure if it could influence here, but it is worth trying.

[1ncorrect]

Thanks for the provided logs. We will analyze them and contact you when there is news.

[Cuzzin Chizzy]

Logs.zip



thanks, ok think I got em

[1ncorrect]

[ATTACH]n231658[/ATTACH]


is this what you need?

Yes, thanks. However, we still need Agent/GUI logs. They didn't end up in the Driver/Service logs folder. You can find them in C:\Users\Public\Documents\reWASD\Logs in .txt format.
We need files:
reWASD engine TextTrace
reWASD TextTrace
reWASD engine TextTrace - Controllers.

[Cuzzin Chizzy]

6.1.1.5716.20.04.2022_13-18-25.zip


is this what you need?

[reWASDer]

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I'll make sure no controllers are plugged in with cables, connected via Bluetooth, and that my XBOX Elite wireless dongle is removed.

That's enough, just the gamepads and their specific adapters. No need to unplug the Bluetooth dongle.

Or do I want to connect the DS3 with the USB cable prior to starting the log?

Yes, in your case, you just need to plug the USB cable back. Start the log, then connect the controller via USB and stop a log in a few moments.

[Cuzzin Chizzy]

ok, cool

Got a few things to clarify to make sure I'm getting you what you need

I'll make sure no controllers are plugged in with cables, connected via Bluetooth, and that my XBOX Elite wireless dongle is removed.

My computer does have an ASUS Bluetooth dongle (that all my BT controllers connect to), as well as a wireless dongle each for both a Logitech wireless keyboard and wireless mouse.

Do I need to unplug those for the reWASD logs to be accurate?

Also, when you say

"5. Connect your adapter and controller and wait a few seconds until it appears as a new device in the bottom left corner of the app."

Do you mean reconnect the Bluetooth dongle that the DS3 connects to and connect to DS3 wirelessly prior to starting the log? Or do I want to connect the DS3 with the USB cable prior to starting the log?

[1ncorrect]

Got it, thanks. I didn't find traces of third party drivers or remappers on your system.

As for your case, we'd like you to collect logs of your controller connection. Here is how:

1. Unplug/disconnect all physical controllers and their adapters, if present.
2. Run reWASD as Administrator.
3. Open 'Preferences > General', select 'Standard logging' with :"Service/Driver logs" and "GUI/Agent logs".
4. Click 'Start log' button and leave 'Preferences'.
5. Connect your adapter and controller and wait a few seconds until it appears as a new device in the bottom left corner of the app.
6. Go to 'Preferences > General' again and click 'Stop log' button.
7. In the message that will appear, click 'Open file location', find the archive that was created last, and send it to us.

If you have accidentally closed the message, you can still find the archive at C:\Users\Public\Documents\reWASD\Logs folder.

Thank you in advance.