
I used for nearly 2 decades a Logitech F310. I t was cabled and never had any issues except that some dirt caused issues with the sticks. It was not too hard to open up to clean it and well closing it was a bit tricky with all the sticks that told me gravity is real.
I could never complain about it especially as Logitech had back when I bough tit already a very adjustable software so I could use it even for games that only supported keyboard input. (back then there was no reWASD

Now I tried the Vader4pro. It's quite good. It also has a good software to adjust the key mapping. Not as good as reWASD. The 4 additional keys on the bottom and the two additional keys below the ABXY keys are useful for games like ArmA3 or ETS2. I don't think you can get out of the additional buttons much for simple console conversations...until you add mods that need more input.

Sadly the Vader4pro is not 100% supported by reWASD. With a combi from the gamepads software and reWASD you can set the additional 6 keys with the Vader3 tool and have the reWASD software provide you with more inputs from the controller.
Maybe until reWASD get the data to support the 4pro the Vader3pro is better.
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